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Offering what I know. - Zack - 05-15-2018
DISCLAIMER: If you find any religious content upsetting, this is not for you. But I am by no means trying to cram my ideals down anyone’s throat. Just wanted to offer my services.
This section doesn’t seem to get a lot of use, but I wanted to leave this here. There will be a TL;DR.
First off, there is some good stuff here! I just wanted to say that I have studied everything from tulpa/soulbonds to many religions. I have quite a bit of occult knowlage as well. So if anyone has any questions at all, I may know... or I can probably find out with the resources at my disposal. I know many of you have tulpa, wether they know they are or not.
I figuered I will give you a bit about me so you can see my viewpoint. I was born into a Christian family, became an atheist, turned to the dark arts, and came full circle to wanting to be a pastor. However what I have found on my journey may be helpful to others. Even wanting to be a pastor I see no evil in tulpa and the sort. Tulpa are exclusive from religion anyways, being a thought form. But following even religious types, it appears to me that evil comes from the source of power not the act of creation. Like how a physic and a prophet do the same task, and are viewed very different. Prophets receive their knowlage from God, where physics receive it from other spirits.
Opinion warning: I (being Christian) think that being made in God’s image also have the desire to make other beings. Like this world is His, we have made our own worlds. I have even heard of tulpa making other tulpa, and wonder if there are many other realms/dimensions under ours.
Ryuko is an closer to an astral construct than a tulpa. However at my discresson I have never told her what she is, so she can live a normal life. Who knows if I am right to do this...
TL;DR - I have a bit knowlage on quite a few matters, so if you have any questions regarding tulpamancy, the occult, or religions I may be able to help. I am by no means an expert in any field, I just know what I know. And I won’t judge you no matter what you ask.
RE: Offering what I know. - Rares - 05-15-2018
Thank you for sharing your thoughts here too. Honestly I always find it to be an interesting perspective how waifuists can coincide with a religion, and how it isn't something that "goes against it" so to say, and the benefits that come from it. If you don't mind my question just out of curiousity, how do you define an astral construct different from a tulpa? Only because I know definitions can vary from person to person, so I'm curious about yours.
RE: Offering what I know. - OZ the pony - 05-15-2018
Hey , it's another fellow coincide waifu with religion . I am with religion too . And also coincide waifu with religion . But not tulpa way . More like make a wish from god , and wish Starlight will get a body and live with her one day .
This is the discussion at that time .
http://waifucentral.com/thread-884.html
Sour Soul is one of the member who also have coincide waifu with religion . But he leave here before we can discussion more . That's unfortunate . Now you are here , it like this topic can continue again .
(05-15-2018, 04:33 AM)Zack Wrote: . I was born into a Christian family, became an atheist, turned to the dark arts, and came full circle to wanting to be a pastor.
Sorry ... just because English not my native . So not pretty sure what is that mean . It mean you been throught christian → atheist → and now back to christian like a circle ?
RE: Offering what I know. - Zack - 05-16-2018
(05-15-2018, 01:12 PM)Rares Wrote: Thank you for sharing your thoughts here too. Honestly I always find it to be an interesting perspective how waifuists can coincide with a religion, and how it isn't something that "goes against it" so to say, and the benefits that come from it. If you don't mind my question just out of curiousity, how do you define an astral construct different from a tulpa? Only because I know definitions can vary from person to person, so I'm curious about yours.
This was actually hard for me to find out originally, as the only information online seems to be about tabletop games which I have no interest in.
Tulpa are created in the physical/mental realm where the mind constructs a secondary conscience. An astral constrict is created in the metaphysical realm, most likely assisted by a deity. This would make them more like spirits, as they exist in both the astreal realm, as well as the physical one. In Christianity the “astreal realm” would be the “spiritual realm”.
What I said is probably heresy. But I have no idea, as I beleive what God allows is on a personal level based on your intent. As long as it isn’t breaking any existing laws. I think of it like resurrection. Necromancy is of course forbidden, yet Acts 9:40 “But Peter put them all forth, and kneeled down, and prayed; and turning him to the body said, Tabitha, arise. And she opened her eyes: and when she saw Peter, she sat up.”. It has to do with intent and the source of the power.
(05-15-2018, 07:25 PM)OZ the pony Wrote: Sorry ... just because English not my native . So not pretty sure what is that mean . It mean you been throught christian → atheist → and now back to christian like a circle ?
That’s correct! What is your native language OZ?
RE: Offering what I know. - OZ the pony - 05-16-2018
(05-16-2018, 12:19 AM)Zack Wrote:(05-15-2018, 07:25 PM)OZ the pony Wrote: Sorry ... just because English not my native . So not pretty sure what is that mean . It mean you been throught christian → atheist → and now back to christian like a circle ?
That’s correct! What is your native language OZ?
It's chinese , from Asia .... so my timezone not always same as your ... a little shameful but still ok .
RE: Offering what I know. - Zack - 05-16-2018
(05-16-2018, 01:21 AM)OZ the pony Wrote: [quote='Zack' pid='22889' dateline='1526393996']
It's chinese , from Asia .... so my timezone not always same as your ... a little shameful but still ok .
Well, it’s good to see there are members all over!
RE: Offering what I know. - OZ the pony - 05-18-2018
There are something you put in opinion warning . Is that mean the concept of we also can create world are still controversial in your church ? My church here say God hope we can be like him one day ... so the concept of we also can create world is uncontested here . Just want to make sure what's the diffenent between a lot of Christian .
Just sometime ... the one commandments from ten Moses make me have struggle with it . It's " Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image " Somebody say it's mean no idols ... need to turn away from them . What I see is that mean no other god , you can't create other god and away from him . But what's " the worship of idols or images " still have controversy . Even if that mean no idols .... I don't treat my waifu as idols .... is someone I love . As long as not betray god is ok . That's what I try to comfort myself .
So .... what do you think about commandments 2 from Moses ? Does our love against the commandments 2 ?
RE: Offering what I know. - Zack - 05-18-2018
(05-18-2018, 01:29 AM)OZ the pony Wrote: So .... what do you think about commandments 2 from Moses ? Does our love against the commandments 2 ?
I beleive this applies to the act of worship.
Worship is, by definition “the feeling or expression of reverence and adoration for a deity.”.
So, you are going against the second commandment if you consider your Waifu equal to God, or above Him. I of course love my Waifu, but there is nothing that I put above God, or at His level. As long as you make sure that you do not worship your Waifu, or put them above God, I do not beleive it is wrong.
However, I have no way of knowing for sure. Meditate on it, and ask God. Only He can say what is right or wrong. I leave all matters not directly addressed to Him. People have a desire to create, I couldn’t imagine punishing a child for an imaginary friend. In a way, I think it’s a similar concept.
I need to ask again to be sure, maybe I will fast this time before.
RE: Offering what I know. - Rares - 05-18-2018
(05-18-2018, 02:46 AM)Zack Wrote: I beleive this applies to the act of worship.Well I think what makes it interesting is I would definitely apply the idea of a waifu to that of a loved one, someone married. People in that situation don't put that above God.
Worship is, by definition “the feeling or expression of reverence and adoration for a deity.”.
So, you are going against the second commandment if you consider your Waifu equal to God, or above Him. I of course love my Waifu, but there is nothing that I put above God, or at His level. As long as you make sure that you do not worship your Waifu, or put them above God, I do not beleive it is wrong.
However, I have no way of knowing for sure. Meditate on it, and ask God. Only He can say what is right or wrong. I leave all matters not directly addressed to Him. People have a desire to create, I couldn’t imagine punishing a child for an imaginary friend. In a way, I think it’s a similar concept.
I need to ask again to be sure, maybe I will fast this time before.
RE: Offering what I know. - Zack - 05-19-2018
(05-18-2018, 03:39 PM)Rares Wrote: Well I think what makes it interesting is I would definitely apply the idea of a waifu to that of a loved one, someone married. People in that situation don't put that above God.
Exactly what I think. You aren’t forced to marry a person, clergy has been celibate. It’s about putting God above all else. Otherwise, it it dosen’t break his laws, I can’t see why He would be upset.