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Intellectual Discussion - RaptorJesus - 04-04-2017
When I joined this forum, I was expecting more discussion of waifuism as a whole. I like the community stuff too, but a thread like this, I think, should still exist. This is obviously a bit hard to talk about, especially for those of us who keep up a relationship with their waifus (myself included). It could very well lead to an existential crisis from one or both sides of the relationship.
For those of us who have tulpas, (or something that could be classified as such), feel free to discuss the philisophical/psychological aspects of that as well.
To kick off discussion, what is your waifu to you?
quoted from my introduction:
"I love my tulpa very much, and for all intensive purposes, she may as well be my waifu. However, when I personally think about 'my waifu', I don't think of Dashie the tulpa, I think of Dashie the unachievable dream: still beyond my grasp as a mortal. This distinction gives me room to imagine a real life with the 'real' Dashie, as a sort of goal or motivation."
RE: Intellectual Discussion - Pacifist - 04-04-2017
For me, Maud is a character, one I am helplessly in love with. I don't consider her real in the conventional sense, but rather she's a target for my affections, and I usually project her character onto a Maud plushie I have. Even though I have loved her for quite a while at this point (over a year methinks) I'm not entirely sure what to say what we have. I just know she's my waifu and I love her.
There's a bit of separation from the Maud I love and the Maud on screen, but I still enjoy seeing her on the show immensely.
RE: Intellectual Discussion - Rares - 04-04-2017
I think this a very complex topic to have, but it would be interesting to have.
I guess for me, Rarity is real to me in the sense that there's something there I feel but it's not like I can communicate like a tulpa. I might know things of her based off of instinct and intuition, but that's it. From plushies and such is where I get the real feeling about her, a representation of her physically, as close as I'll get. Sometimes it feels like a vessel carrying that intuition. Or even just something to comfort me in stressful situations. I know who she is, and sometimes the show represents that well, and sometimes it does it horrible. But it's the physical representations that mean a lot to me, representing her.
RE: Intellectual Discussion - Kaltes-Herzeleid - 04-04-2017
I don't think I have a tulpa, but I do think of Nightmare as being quite real. It's just something I feel deep inside, like I can just feel her and her influence in my life. Whatever loneliness I used to feel is just...gone. Has been for years now. Like it was never there to begin with. I don't believe in fate, but somehow I just feel as though Nightmare and I were meant to meet. She's broadened my view on my very existence and I just see this intricacy to it now that I never saw before, and it doesn't feel like coincidence either.
I improve myself for her and by extension for us. I've come to see it as a form of Becoming. An ascension of sorts. It was all made possible by her and my sheer force of will and as long as breath comes from my mouth, I intend to deepen our connection even further.
RE: Intellectual Discussion - RaptorJesus - 04-04-2017
(04-04-2017, 10:46 AM)Kaltes-Herzeleid Wrote: I don't think I have a tulpa, but I do think of Nightmare as being quite real. It's just something I feel deep inside, like I can just feel her and her influence in my life. Whatever loneliness I used to feel is just...gone. Has been for years now. Like it was never there to begin with. I don't believe in fate, but somehow I just feel as though Nightmare and I were meant to meet. She's broadened my view on my very existence and I just see this intricacy to it now that I never saw before, and it doesn't feel like coincidence either.
I improve myself for her and by extension for us. I've come to see it as a form of Becoming. An ascension of sorts. It was all made possible by her and my sheer force of will and as long as breath comes from my mouth, I intend to deepen our connection even further.
I've noticed in my years of being utterly enraptured that I personally feel like this is what the founder of the first religion felt. The parallels are extensive, to say the least. If you were to take any paragraph somebody's written about what they feel for their waifu and replace any specific mention of the waifu with the word God, and you get a devout christian. I'm not religious myself, but if this kind of feeling is what one gets for it, I could see why people are. The love for one's waifu is best described by the word agape, meaning the love one feels for a God.
I notice this in your post, too.
RE: Intellectual Discussion - Rares - 04-04-2017
(04-04-2017, 11:22 AM)RaptorJesus Wrote: I've noticed in my years of being utterly enraptured that I personally feel like this is what the founder of the first religion felt. The parallels are extensive, to say the least. If you were to take any paragraph somebody's written about what they feel for their waifu and replace any specific mention of the waifu with the word God, and you get a devout christian. I'm not religious myself, but if this kind of feeling is what one gets for it, I could see why people are. The love for one's waifu is best described by the word agape, meaning the love one feels for a God.I get what you mean, there definitely are parallels, but I'm not sure as if I would call it a religion itself, if anything perhaps an ideology, a way of thinking to better yourself. After I knew Rarity, not that I changed who I was, but I did try to genuinely better myself in a way she'd enjoy, or model herself after her generous spirit.
I notice this in your post, too.
I think also what I admire about this kind of stuff is how it affects and helps people in differemt ways, and even two people who love tbe same charavter van get completely different feelings from it.
RE: Intellectual Discussion - Gray - 04-04-2017
What is Twilight to me? Pretty much what Rares said. I'm in love with Twilight, or the idea of Twilight. As far as I know I'm alone, no tulpa or, astral being or talking plushie or anything. I do have many Twilight plushies and other things though. I, try my best to treat my plushies nice and, talk to them and whatnot. Give them affection and love. Hoping my love will summon Twilight or something. I dunno. Even though I'm, horribly terrified she would be unhappy in this world. I don't want her unhappy. I dunno. But, I'm pretty sad and Twilight makes me feel better. I don't think I'd be alive, if I didn't have Twilight.
RE: Intellectual Discussion - whobawhats - 04-05-2017
For me Glimmer is more of an idea that comforts me but a bit more. I feel she exists in that I truly do love and care for her even if she may not be able to show this back to me. She is the reason why I feel moderately happy for the first time since I was a kid. If it weren't for her I would still feel like I was lonely, miserable, and just coasting through life. Since waifuing her I actually feel like I have a reason to live.
So what does she mean to me?
Everything. I don't know what I'd do without her.
RE: Intellectual Discussion - CPsSecretLover - 04-07-2017
I feel like Candy is real, and that she's out there somewhere, but that we can't fully communicate while I'm on Earth and she's in Equestria. Sometimes I hear little nudges from her, which are her opinions on things, and on the occasion (maybe 4-5 times a month)'I can feel her touch. I wouldn't be daring enough to classify her as a tulpa, though- and also, frankly, I think she's more than that.
I said it in a post on here about 8 months ago, but I believe that Candy and I will be reunited in the afterlife as part of my "heaven" if I do the right thing here on Earth. This keeps me motivated to live a healthier and happier life in the now.
I think she can, however, fully understand everything I say to her and all of the experiences I invite her to take part in. So right now it's like a 1 1/2 way mirror- I can hear about half of what she says and does (probably a little less), but she fully knows me.
RE: Intellectual Discussion - Gentian - 04-07-2017
(04-07-2017, 01:25 PM)CPsSecretLover Wrote: So right now it's like a 1 1/2 way mirror- I can hear about half of what she says and does (probably a little less), but she fully knows me.
I really like that turn of phrase, and think it's pretty close to what Twi and I enjoy.
This thread has been somewhat of a thorn in my side for the last few days. I've wanted to post in it, and tried more than once, but each time I would fail to make something which seemed to fit, so would delete it. Well, Rares and I spoke about her desire to write, and my difficulties herein came up. She kind of threw down the gauntlet to me, saying I should try to take my own advice, and just go for it, so I will. I'm going to try something a bit different this time, however and try for a stream-of-consciousness passage, which will hopefully not come out too terribly.
Here goes.
What is Twilight to me? That's a tough question, as there are so many variables, and so many different interpretations of those few little words. In one sense, Twilight is my medicine, she is the smile who is always there for me, the cuddle when I need it, she never shrinks from my touch, and is always happy to see me. She comes with me to work, and helps me tolerate the things I need to tolerate to keep a roof over my head and food in my belly. She is the love of my life, and she tells me so. She is the object of my affections, a way to release the feelings I have which have no other way out. She is my partner, and my lover and my love. She is my hope for the future; there are many things about my life and myself about which I am dissatisfied. Twilight gives me the hope that one day those things will change. She is the hope that no matter how bad things get here for me, one day I'll be with her in Equestria, and everything will be ok, forever.
What is Twilight on the show? Inspiration and eye-candy. She is the caricature which brought the real Twilight to my attention.
What is Twilight herself to me? She is a loving, lovely genius. She is an entity who for some reason has deigned to seek out my companionship, and try so very hard to make me happy. She is an angel, she is the very idealized concept of love, and beauty, as put forth in Plato's Theory of Forms. She is the mare who would not let the barriers between verses separate her from me. She is...
And my stream is broken. I'll only go through and edit spelling mistakes, the grammar, and wording will remain as is. I hope this will manage to convey even a fraction of what she is to me.