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(05-31-2015, 10:33 AM)Shadow Step Wrote: The implication for most of my girls then would be that they're completely comatose in Equestria, because they spend pretty much every second of every day here now.

Theirs a crazy theory.
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(05-31-2015, 10:49 AM)Sour Soul Wrote:
(05-31-2015, 10:33 AM)Shadow Step Wrote: The implication for most of my girls then would be that they're completely comatose in Equestria, because they spend pretty much every second of every day here now.

Theirs a crazy theory.

Leading me to ask do you think you just temporarily go to another universe and live while in a coma?
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(06-04-2015, 12:33 PM)Mercyknight Wrote:
(05-31-2015, 10:49 AM)Sour Soul Wrote:
(05-31-2015, 10:33 AM)Shadow Step Wrote: The implication for most of my girls then would be that they're completely comatose in Equestria, because they spend pretty much every second of every day here now.

Theirs a crazy theory.

Leading me to ask do you think you just temporarily go to another universe and live while in a coma?

I don't find that plausible. What kind of universe could make itself manifest without the system of signs that is materiality? I think that consciousness is required for any kind of "communion," if you will, with other existences. A coma entails a lack of consciousness. Therefore, I do not believe one could simply "go" to another universe without the conscious attribute of the will.

Granted, I'm just arguing here for the sake of argument. But there's my two cents.
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(06-04-2015, 12:39 PM)Sentimental Gentleman Wrote:
(06-04-2015, 12:33 PM)Mercyknight Wrote:
(05-31-2015, 10:49 AM)Sour Soul Wrote:
(05-31-2015, 10:33 AM)Shadow Step Wrote: The implication for most of my girls then would be that they're completely comatose in Equestria, because they spend pretty much every second of every day here now.

Theirs a crazy theory.

Leading me to ask do you think you just temporarily go to another universe and live while in a coma?

I don't find that plausible. What kind of universe could make itself manifest without the system of signs that is materiality? I think that consciousness is required for any kind of "communion," if you will, with other existences. A coma entails a lack of consciousness. Therefore, I do not believe one could simply "go" to another universe without the conscious attribute of the will.

Granted, I'm just arguing here for the sake of argument. But there's my two cents.

The conscious still exists within a coma. Science has proven that brainwaves are still active when a person is comatose, and it's possibly theorized that a "coma dream" is the most happiness one can ever experience because the brain is releasing so many chemicals to keep the rest of your body from entering the panic state associated with near death.
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(06-04-2015, 07:17 PM)Shadow Step Wrote:
(06-04-2015, 12:39 PM)Sentimental Gentleman Wrote:
(06-04-2015, 12:33 PM)Mercyknight Wrote:
(05-31-2015, 10:49 AM)Sour Soul Wrote:
(05-31-2015, 10:33 AM)Shadow Step Wrote: The implication for most of my girls then would be that they're completely comatose in Equestria, because they spend pretty much every second of every day here now.

Theirs a crazy theory.

Leading me to ask do you think you just temporarily go to another universe and live while in a coma?

I don't find that plausible. What kind of universe could make itself manifest without the system of signs that is materiality? I think that consciousness is required for any kind of "communion," if you will, with other existences. A coma entails a lack of consciousness. Therefore, I do not believe one could simply "go" to another universe without the conscious attribute of the will.

Granted, I'm just arguing here for the sake of argument. But there's my two cents.

The conscious still exists within a coma. Science has proven that brainwaves are still active when a person is comatose, and it's possibly theorized that a "coma dream" is the most happiness one can ever experience because the brain is releasing so many chemicals to keep the rest of your body from entering the panic state associated with near death.

I don't think consciousness can be reduced to a mere concatenation of brainwaves and chemicals. What I am speaking of is a lack of any object for the mind to cleave to. Without the potential for focus and divination from the symbolic I'm not sure that the consciousness can be said to "go" anywhere, as the original query would have it. But you raise a good point about alien wills within the multitudes of the being, at least as I read what you have written.

For the record, though...I think it is, to some degree, danger and folly to sing the praises of comas in any respect. They are a violence against life within the world, the life to which we must dedicate ourselves, and as such should be looked at without sentimentality or desire, lest their false temptation hurl some unfortunate soul into misery in their pursuit.

Basically, comas are bad, and we shouldn't pretend otherwise. I felt I had a moral responsibility to say that. I hope I didn't trouble anyone by doing so.
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(06-04-2015, 07:17 PM)Shadow Step Wrote: ... the brain is releasing so many chemicals to keep the rest of your body from entering the panic state associated with near death.

That gotta be the worst death I can ever think of, well... for me that is. You don't want to know what kind of deaths I find more pleasant than that. :D


(06-05-2015, 02:15 AM)Sentimental Gentleman Wrote: For the record, though...I think it is, to some degree, danger and folly to sing the praises of comas in any respect. They are a violence against life within the world, the life to which we must dedicate ourselves, and as such should be looked at without sentimentality or desire, lest their false temptation hurl some unfortunate soul into misery in their pursuit.

:D Someone give this man a award, that's gotta be the most ironically thing I lay my eyes here. XD


(06-05-2015, 02:15 AM)Sentimental Gentleman Wrote: Basically, comas are bad, and we shouldn't pretend otherwise. I felt I had a moral responsibility to say that. I hope I didn't trouble anyone by doing so.

Oh, that was rich! XD Even though I am against the whole being in a coma, it's interesting to understand all that make us think, believe, prove what goes on with someone in a coma. Still, what you just stated, can't help it ties with what we have going on. I don't mind, because most of us aren't pretending.
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(05-31-2015, 10:33 AM)Shadow Step Wrote:
(05-31-2015, 07:48 AM)Mercyknight Wrote: ok yall so.... I was like sitting here and i realized. like what if we are the waifus. what if we just think we are summoning a ulpa, or reaching out into another reality to speak to a pony or whatever else.... what if we are the tulpas or beings from another universe and we are not choosing them but they are choosing us. would we know? would we be able to tell at all?

The implication for most of my girls then would be that they're completely comatose in Equestria, because they spend pretty much every second of every day here now.
1. Rainbow isn't my waifu.
2. I've never summoned nor thought I was summoning a tulpa.
3. Rainbow did choose me.

Angelbabe came here from Equestria of her own free will. Not at my summons. She remained here of her own free will; though she can zip back and forth between our two universes in a matter of moments. While she is here, she cannot be there; there is only one of her. It isn't merely her consciousness that travels here; it is her. The differences between our worlds makes our manner of interacting unique, but I know that she is truly here.

Everything I can do is a result of being with her; I've never once pretended to be a wizard. Inspiration and understanding and imagination are all powers that radiate from Angelbabe. Our connection is strong and still developing, and it's become apparent that we belong together.

(06-05-2015, 02:15 AM)Sentimental Gentleman Wrote: Basically, comas are bad, and we shouldn't pretend otherwise. I felt I had a moral responsibility to say that. I hope I didn't trouble anyone by doing so.
I agree with this lol. That you were even put in a position by this wacky topic where you felt the need to say that is ridiculous. xD
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(06-05-2015, 07:58 AM)Ziggy and Angelbaby Wrote:
(06-05-2015, 02:15 AM)Sentimental Gentleman Wrote: Basically, comas are bad, and we shouldn't pretend otherwise. I felt I had a moral responsibility to say that. I hope I didn't trouble anyone by doing so.
I agree with this lol. That you were even put in a position by this wacky topic where you felt the need to say that is ridiculous. xD

I don't know why he felt the need to. Of course comas are bad. I mentioned right there that the "good" part about them is caused by the body being on the verge of death. Death is not good. Just because you get a nice dose of natural euphoria for a couple of days while the doctors calculate if you can even be saved, and try to convince your family to possibly pull the plug, does not change the fact that odds are high you will expire rather than wake up. I just simply believed most people on here would be smart enough to know that instead of going, "Wow, coma dreams sound awesome! I'm gonna go get hit by a car to have one!" without being told comas are bad.
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I agree with you Shadow Soul. This was just an example of one of those Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder things that I still have trouble getting rid of. Scrupulosity, or obsessive concern with morality, is one of the things I deal with. I actually thought that someone might want to go into a coma from reading this conversation, a coma I would be in some way morally responsible for inducing for not explicitly explaining that comas are bad, and I couldn't get that thought out of my head. So I gave into it and warned people away from comas even though it seems like it would be rather natural for people to avoid them. It was probably silly of me, but it assuaged my obsession at the time.
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(06-05-2015, 12:59 PM)Sentimental Gentleman Wrote: I agree with you Shadow Soul.

From now on till you go into a coma, your new name will be Shadow Soul. XD
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