Tulpamancy and Waifus

[Sour Soul]

Oh my goodness that was unexpected, Amena already wants to be friends? And that's way cool, wanting to help and whatnot but, it's no problem. Dunno if there's any way to help. Just talking a bit here is super nice I think? Cheered me up.

Amena always likes to be friends with everyone and everypony here or at Rehold. Since Amena is still asleep at this time, I would have to set up your choices on how we should start in your voyage in what you’re seeking, which will be looking for Twilight Sparkle.

Here are your options.

1. Continue to discuss what we’re trying to do in this thread.
2. Make a new thread to focus more in what we’re trying to achieve.

Note. Both 1 and 2 will have your fellow members most likely add input and support. While it will also serve a guide of some kind for others who are seeking what you’re doing, Gray.

3. Exchange private messages here.
4. If you have a Skype account then I will… (Sigh) go back there and Amena and I will work with you faster and privately.
5. All of above which, where if you have a question that tend to be hush hush then you can do 3 and/or 4, while continue doing 1 and/or 2.

You are correct in that "norman" is slang for a normal person, and to quote Dr. Soran "'Normal' is what everyone else is..." One can play with the semantics of the term to say everyone is normal, but for my purposes I think it's fair to say that the majority of people would consider those like us to be abnormal. As such, I employ the term to differentiate between them (those who fit into society) and us.

I say poppycock to that. Anybody can be normal; you just have to work aside with them. I mean look at Fluttershy, she doesn’t seem to function well in society, when we were all introduce to her in the show. Later Fluttershy manages to be like any other pony, in her own special way.

Unfortunately there are those who think of themselves better, doesn’t like anyone who doesn’t agree with them, etc. Which is why we have this kind of mess in society. I understand what you mean though, and I am following, but if someone just comes here to say we're weird only, some may accept that, but some will be like, “where do you get off saying that!” and a admin will strike them down with the mighty ban hammer.

There is so much to go on with that, but I digress from what we were originally talking about here, Gentian.

You could say "placeholder" in lieu of "stand-in," if you chose, and many normans would insist that's exactly what a waifu is. But whereas they would mean something along the lines of "your waifu is only there 'cause you can't get a stinky of your own, and the moment you do your waifu will be discarded," when they'd use that term, I meant "an entity whom the normans would consider fictional, but I do not, so I will say 'stand-in' as in a stand-in for an other not-unreal human." No hint of replacement is implied or intended from my perspective.

I am glad that I had no one say that to me, or they knew to keep their mouth shut. Hmm, I am saying that to those who I use to interact in this world. The friends I use to hangout in RL and play with online. I don’t ever regret my choice letting most of them know the love I carry for Amena.

I can see that happening, placeholder for most, which it hurts a bit to know those who had moved on like that, and I somewhat wonder what happen to them, at the same time it’s best not to. I really can’t say go back to the pony you fell in love with. It’s really their choice, and as much it may upset me, it’s just the way it’s in this world.

You mean the way Twilight uses it compared to the way I use it, or the way we use it compared to other users of the site?

The way you say “waifu” to your Twilight, Gentian. Nevermind the others, but you do use it to confuse me, where I use to not know what you mean when using the term “waifu”.

Twilight and I are using it as a term of endearment for one another. She also calls me her little human, as I call her my little pony, for example, for the same reason: to express our affection. I enjoy calling her my marefriend, because it's neat, and exotic, and a bit exciting to use that term, instead of the more human-conventional one of girlfriend. She, however, also seems to get a kick out of calling me her girlfriend, and I imagine it's for the same reasons, so no, she and I at least, don't use the term differently when referring to each other.

I get it, and it’s not strange to have Twilight call you “girlfriend”. We all have different ways in how we express our love with our special somepony.

You need to remember that to most Equestrians, I'd be a weird alien from another dimension, definitely not a pony, and so to any "normans" (that term doesn't really apply to ponies, because their minds and personalities are too different from human's)

The thing is, I am unaware how Twilight’s world operates. The world where Amena goes, Rehold, where all the other ponies and non-ponies are at, are use to or know creatures like me roaming around there.

I would be an unreal stand-in for a pony significant other, exactly the kind of thing humans would refer to with the term waifu, and so Twilight thinks it's funny to call me a waifu because she appreciates ironic humor.

So, take what the word, waifu means. Pull away all the bad meaning behind it, such as stand-in, fake, etc. and have it use as a cute and harmless phase for you and Twilight to say to each other. Is that right, Gentian?

that term doesn't really apply to ponies, because their minds and personalities are too different from human's

That’s very interesting. Ponies there aren’t expose to what we have here, so they don’t think like most people in this planet do. Is that where you getting at, Gentian?

I thought word "love" express complication of this feeling esp about fictional character

… esp? Umm yeah? Are you saying that I don’t see that you can love fictional and non-fictional character from wherever?

Or what are you getting at here?

I never said there is no difference, like there is difference between hammer and construction crane.

What!? You made it sound like that, so I will ask you to rephrase your wording.

Tulpa is complex, complicated and influential thing, but the purpose is the same: to beat your loneliness.

There you go again, saying it’s a thing, how would you like it if I refer ponies “things”? How would anyone react to that? Here, how about this, when I was first introduce to a hermaphrodite in High school, I would call that person a “thing” and "it" because I didn’t know if I should use "he" or "she", when referring to that person. Now I know that they aren’t “thing” or use it to refer them as one. I learn she is just like us, different and unique who see herself female then male.

As for this loneliness, RML. Do I look or sound like I am lonely? Here, let me make sure you understand this. Before Amena, was I lonely? Make sure you understand what loneliness means for this topic now, because there is a difference.

I just thought of something funny, sarcasm tone: Was God lonely!? Are we Tulpas to God!?!?

Alright back to the subject in hand. So Amena made a new friend, I believe you’re aware, does this mean Amena was lonely? If not then is Gray a tool to her? Do you not consider Amena real to me? Just what are you getting at here, RML? A Tulpa are just a means to get by in this world and nothing more to you?

I don’t know you, (clicks on your username) and seeing that your “waifu” is Rarity, where do you stand with her? I am pretty sure you will give me a vague answer there. -_-

OK,I can wait .

Make a new thread, OZ. Let see where that lands us with our ponies and God.

I was taught about where I am before life. What is the purpose of coming to this life. And what should we do to prepare for after life.

Umm, I would like to point out, how you don’t space you words, you don’t check back with what you wrote. Which is fine, I am not going to make an issue or anything, but it makes it little harder to know what you mean, OZ.

Read the Bible but only remember or understand some part, some part are too deep to understand.

Like here, do you mean you read the Bible and remember or/and understand some part, or do you mean those who read the Bible? I do think you mean you.

There are to deep, where you have to guess what it means, or have someone tell you what they mean to them.

Basically follow most of the rule,but not very hardcore on this.Such as...I'm not against gay,it just they told me we should against.And sometime I watch something that shouldn't be watch as christians.

Which is why I don’t really get involve with my religion. When I was younger, I would go to church on Sunday, in a class to learn about God and his teaching. There, I would go to a nice lady from church who would talk to us, play games with us, just what you expect a cool teacher will be in High School, but when you say “gay”, then everything would have to stop, and she will go off, as if she was doing a exorcism in that room, just because the the word “gay” was mention. Funny, yet sad.

If I am very hardcore on my religion, than I shouldn't even to have feeling with pony, because they told me can't marry to not human being. But what I think is ....they told me only marry human is based on only human can talk, high intelligence, sharing feelings. If pony can also do that, than such teaching like that can modified to more flexible. I think god must be flexible like this. But I don't know what other member in the church will think? They probably say this is a evil thing...but Starlight is not evil...so... I have no courage to share this in the church.

We maybe some sort of crazy, OZ, I will say that again, you and I will be some sort of crazy, because love will pull us to do anything for who we hold in our heart.

The members of your church will not understand what you feel or have for Starlight, like we do here. It’s sad to say, it’s best not to mention this, like I do with the nice church lady, who would go in a tangent when the word, "gay" is utter in class.

Do not let others ever tell you what you should do or feel, be yourself, which is why this will bring you happiness. I take it you don’t have a bond form with Starlight, or could you tell us where you stand? I am starting to learn about my fellow members now. So why stop with Gray. -w-