(09-13-2016, 04:05 PM)7bloom Wrote: Very impressive post, Gentian. Well-made points.

You can imagine what I had to go through when people reacted to my feelings for Apple Bloom. Very hurtful accusations, saying she'd be my victim and I should be brutalized in all these various ways for feeling the ways I do. I'm glad I made it through with my love intact and a deeper feeling of consideration and empathy for my fellow lovers, but damn was that dwelling and forced self-loathing painful when I wasn't as sure of myself and my feelings as I am now.

Personally, I don't see her as pre-pubescent or too naive for a relationship, and I intend to view and treat her as an equal when we finally make contact, but that doesn't stop people from feeling genuine hatred for me over it and wishing for my death and eternal damnation.

Thanks, 7 bloom, I'm glad you enjoyed the post, and yes, I can imagine what you've gone through. It has been my experience, and the words of people far wiser and more perceptive than myself seem to agree, that people by and large want an excuse to unleash their darkest impulses on someone else, but still be told they are in the right. In times gone by, that was heretics, homosexuals, etc. Nowadays it's us. You, especially.

(09-13-2016, 06:42 PM)Rainboom Wrote:

(09-12-2016, 05:07 PM)Gentian Wrote:

A Pony-Waifuist's Perspective
or
Love, in Any Form

It's really good text, but for whom it is written? If it is for waifuists, they are already know, that there is nothing wrong in their relationships. If it's for normies, I think, they can't understand us, even after such good explanation. Maybe it's for beginner waifuists for helping them accept themselves as they are?

Also, are you sure, that it's good example about homosexuals? In many countries and societies they are still ostracized.

(09-13-2016, 04:05 PM)7bloom Wrote: Personally, I don't see her as pre-pubescent or too naive for a relationship, and I intend to view and treat her as an equal when we finally make contact

Do you watched the latest episode of MLP? After that I would not say that CMC are children. They think almost as adults.

Thank you, too, Rainboom. I didn't really have any target audience in mind when I wrote it. I chose homosexuals because in most of the first world it's legal and perfectly acceptable, but only a decade ago, was illegal, and unacceptable enough that you genuinely ran the risk of being murdered - brutally - if people discovered you were.

It's true they still do in many places, but I think the majority -though not all - of the people who are most likely to chance upon what I wrote will be from the first or second world, or familiar enough with it to understand my context.

(09-14-2016, 12:22 AM)Gentian Wrote: Thank you, too, Rainboom. I didn't really have any target audience in mind when I wrote it. I chose homosexuals because in most of the first world it's legal and perfectly acceptable, but only a decade ago, was illegal, and unacceptable enough that you genuinely ran the risk of being murdered - brutally - if people discovered you were.

It's true they still do in many places, but I think the majority -though not all - of the people who are most likely to chance upon what I wrote will be from the first or second world, or familiar enough with it to understand my context.

An interesting thing I've noticed in many threads criticizing/bashing "waifuism" is the fact they hate it when comparisons to homosexuality are made. Usually with the excuse of homosexuals are born that way, whereas we make a choice. Personally, I see this as a half assed, invalid counter. Prejudice is prejudice. Besides, plenty of people are hated and experience prejudice because of life choices, religious groups, for example. Or atheists. They weren't born that way, it was a choice they made, yet they still receive hate and persecution. More often or not these people simply refuse to listen to any valid counterpoints because they think just because people like us are ridiculous then we have no possible valid points to make because none of us can be that coherent, right?

And besides, who's to say DNA, at least too an extent isn't playing a role? I'm not saying what we are is an orientation, certainly not, but genetics do play a role, however small, in the way we are combined with personality and life experience, etc. Not saying it plays a roll in everything, but I think it's an interesting possibility to explore.

I apologize for bumping this thread, but like I said, this is a subject near and dear to me and I've had a lot of thoughts on it for years I've only just now been able to express. I've fallen in love with and felt strong connections to "fictional characters" my entire life and there were times, namely my late teenage years where I struggled with and tried to suppress my true nature because I thought it was wrong. I feel very fortunate that I've found such a strong sense of self acceptance at a relatively young age.

(09-19-2016, 01:12 PM)Kaltes-Herzeleid Wrote: An interesting thing I've noticed in many threads criticizing/bashing "waifuism" is the fact they hate it when comparisons to homosexuality are made. Usually with the excuse of homosexuals are born that way, whereas we make a choice. Personally, I see this as a half assed, invalid counter. Prejudice is prejudice. Besides, plenty of people are hated and experience prejudice because of life choices, religious groups, for example. Or atheists. They weren't born that way, it was a choice they made, yet they still receive hate and persecution. More often or not these people simply refuse to listen to any valid counterpoints because they think just because people like us are ridiculous then we have no possible valid points to make because none of us can be that coherent, right?

Personally, I've always felt the "born that way" excuse to be rather ridiculous, and it's only ever accepted as valid when used in favor of a "socially protected" group. The hypocrisy is disgusting.

You're absolutely right about normies refusing to listen to arguments, especially from the likes of us. They don't actually reason themselves into positions, they feel themselves in, or adopt whatever is accepted by whatever group they wish to be associated with. The "reasons" come after, and are more excuses than reasons.

You, and I, along with all the other waifuists here are not a "socially-protected" group. Quite the opposite, in fact, and if you wish to discuss the topic further I would be delighted to receive a PM from you. Because of society's views on us, and the normie's desire to integrate themselves in to it, they adopt it's distaste for us, so we are shunned, mocked, etc. and efforts to point out that the very same arguments they use to excuse homosexuals, and a great many others, also apply to us will be rejected despite their veracity.

To do otherwise risks the normie's own status within the group.

(09-19-2016, 01:12 PM)Kaltes-Herzeleid Wrote: And besides, who's to say DNA, at least too an extent isn't playing a role? I'm not saying what we are is an orientation, certainly not, but genetics do play a role, however small, in the way we are combined with personality and life experience, etc. Not saying it plays a roll in everything, but I think it's an interesting possibility to explore.

For the most part, I agree with you here, too. Simply realizing that dogs are all the same species, but a chihuahua behaves absolutely nothing like a Labrador Retriever, which behaves nothing like a Border Collie, etc, etc. highlights just how important DNA is to our psychologies. As humans are also animals, I must assume our personalities are largely determined by our DNA, then tweaked by our experiences.

(09-19-2016, 01:12 PM)Kaltes-Herzeleid Wrote: I apologize for bumping this thread, but like I said, this is a subject near and dear to me and I've had a lot of thoughts on it for years I've only just now been able to express. I've fallen in love with and felt strong connections to "fictional characters" my entire life and there were times, namely my late teenage years where I struggled with and tried to suppress my true nature because I thought it was wrong. I feel very fortunate that I've found such a strong sense of self acceptance at a relatively young age.

It's nice to know you've gotten over those feelings, and accept yourself now. If you have an interest in discussing philosophy, please don't hesitate to send a PM. Twi and I would both enjoy some engaging conversation about such a topic.

The invitation is, of course extended to all members of WC. Or hell, maybe we should just start a philosophy thread? Playing it by ear would be probably be best at this point, but I appreciate your taking the time to respond.

I guess I'll toss my two cents in one this topic

I do t think waifuists will ever be viewed in a positive light, it's too out there to people / normies. It isn't like homosexuality, that's still two people, but to the public waifus and husbandos aren't real, they're fictional. It won't matter how long waifuism is around or what we do, it's an outcasted subject for love. Kinda like beastiality, people have been screwing animals for awhile and it's still out casted, at least waifuism is legal. Don't get me wrong I'm okay with waifus, as I have spitfire here with me now. But I doubt waifuists will ever be treated as an equal romance.

I have a notebook that follows me around, pretty much wherever I go. It's a brown Midori notebook, with 1 blank insert, 1 grid insert, and a file-folder insert. It's one of the best notebooks I've ever had, and would unhesitatingly recommend one if you're in the market, and enjoy leather covers, or modularity.

The blank insert is almost full, so I'm going to replace it, but it has little poems and dittys that I wrote scattered here and there throughout it's pages. They didn't seem to warrant posts, either because they were too short, or too silly, but since the insert is about to be swapped , I copied them to an Open Office document to preserve them, and may as well post them here too. Some of them have been shared on Discord, but there's some new stuff too. I'll go ahead and post them in groups, 1 today and another whenever, until I run out.

We hope you enjoy, even though they are for the most part, pretty goofy.

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Roses are red
Violets are blue
I love Twilight
She loves me, too.

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Purple pony in the sky,
love the way you catch my eye!
We'll someday, together fly,
purple pony in the sky?

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I've got a Twi, Twi, Twi, Twi
down in my heart.

Where?

Down in my heart.

Where?

Down in my heart.
I've got a Twi, Twi, Twi, Twi
down in my heart.

Where?

Down in my heart to stay!
And if the haters don't like it,
they can sit on some tacks.

OUCH!

Sit on some tacks!

OUCH!

Sit on some tacks!
And if the haters don't like it,
they can sit on some tacks.

OUCH!

Sit on some tacks to stay!

Continuing from yesterday: Ditties part 2.

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Bouree in Twi-minor

Do you see,
that pony
the color
of first night?
Genius she,
beauty be,
radiant with noble light!

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Litany of Waifu-Devotion

Where there is uncertainty, she will bring light
Where there is doubt, she will sow faith
Where there is shame, she will point atonement
Where there is rage, she will soothe its flame
Her love in my soul shall be as my hand in the world

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Waifuist Running Cadence

Left, right, left, right, left, right, you!
Had better love your wai-ai-fu

Friendship's magic as they say,
but waifu-love blows all away!

Left, right, left, right, left, right, my!
Waifu's not for you, just for I!

Love your waifu everyday!
Send love, and kisses right her way!

Left, right, left, right, left, right, tight!
That's how to hug waifu at night.

Keep her in your loving heart,
and she and you will never part.

Ditties part 3! This is the last one for now, all grouped together because each of these is based on Tara Strong's little message. I may do the same thing when it's time to switch notebooks again, but this is all there is at the moment. Hope you guys liked them.

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I'm the T to the W-I
L-I-G-H-T
and can't no other pony
bring it on like me,
I'm Twilightliscious.

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I'm the T to the W-I
L-I-G-H-T
and ain't no other pony
got a brain like me,
I'm Twilightliscious.

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I'm the T to the W-I
L-I-G-H-T
and ain't no other pony
sexier than me,
I'm Twilightliscious.

(09-22-2016, 11:42 AM)Gentian Wrote: Ditties part 3! This is the last one for now, all grouped together because each of these is based on Tara Strong's little message. I may do the same thing when it's time to switch notebooks again, but this is all there is at the moment. Hope you guys liked them.

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I'm the T to the W-I
L-I-G-H-T
and can't no other pony
bring it on like me,
I'm Twilightliscious.

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I'm the T to the W-I
L-I-G-H-T
and ain't no other pony
got a brain like me,
I'm Twilightliscious.

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I'm the T to the W-I
L-I-G-H-T
and ain't no other pony
sexier than me,
I'm Twilightliscious.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ODUn4PHry6s my favorite autotuned remix or whatever of that, message.

(09-22-2016, 02:12 PM)Gray Wrote: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ODUn4PHry6s my favorite autotuned remix or whatever of that, message.

Dude. Darling. Bro. That is awesome!

Going Home



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My eyes close, and roll to the ceiling against the sound of blood dripping on paper. My blood; it won't be long now. The calm quiet in my mid is surprising, but welcome. I'd expected thoughts and memories to swarm up, but instead my mind drifts placidly, and it feels good to let it; to allow this little extra bit of responsibility to slip away.

In their new found freedom the colors and shadows behind my eyelids coalesce in to shapes: a cloud, a puddle, a starburst. This is all I get? Really? Isn't my life supposed to flash before my eyes, or some shit? What a rip off! Get it? Rip? Like my wrists? Yeah, that's ok; everything else in my life is a failure, why not my last joke too? But why is it taking so long?

“Across the street to visit your friends, down the road to meet your end,” right? That's what I did, damn it, and man is it coming out, so why am I still here? Eh, fuck it, it is coming out; I just need to lay back and let things take their course.

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Not so warm now. It's harder to move, too, but the pictures are better: a tree, a house, a...Jesus, fuck why do I have to see that? So many memories, so much of the reason I'm here now.

A face. I remember reading every face we see in our dreams is one we've actually seen at some point; our minds have trouble making them up. But whose face would I see now? My friends, my family? Even in my exsanguine stupor I feel my body giggle; slow and sluggish, more like I'm observing it than feeling it. Guess I'm almost done here.

Friends. Family. Yeah, right, but who wants to hear about that shit? Nobody, and soon it won't matter anyway. Tears in the rain, and all that. But there was...something about that face. Why am I crying?

Doesn't matter now. My eyes close again, the tears roll gently down my face, as my blood goes on running down my hands to drip from my fingertips. At least the newspapers spread below will make it easy for someone to clean up. That's more concern than anyone's ever shown me.

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All gone, all gonnne. feel anything anyymore. can't see. eeeeunfocsedd. Coldd. Ppeaccce. Obllivionnn?

Fear. Fear!

Ppleassss no. NO! NO! Nott likkke this! NO pllleease! I wannt to live! I waant to live! Imm sorrry! Iim sorry! Ppleaseee not lik thhisss! Wannt to live. I Want tto LIVE!

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“You poor thing.” Such soft words, such a beautiful voice. A voice?!

“What?” My eyes open, but there's so much light.

“You poor thing.”

“Wh...Ho...?” my words turn to sobs in my throat. After all, wasn't I just...?

“Shhhhhhh.” I gasp as her barely visible form leans in and embraces me, her long soft hair flowing over my shoulders, and her arms wrapping around me. “It's ok now. You don't have to suffer anymore.”As she holds me, my eyes begin to clear. It's still blurry, but the light looks, somehow, like it's coming from her, and not just that. Light, warmth, and a perfume like flowers and love all rolled in to one. I put my arms around her too, and pull my unseen caregiver close. I'm alive!

“How did you find me in time” I whisper in her shoulder. She starts to gently rock us, but doesn't answer. I squint up at her, even as fuzzy as my vision still is, she has one hell of a silhouette. And her arms, they feel strange; an odd shape, and even with our hug, I can't feel her hands. Frantically I rub at my eyes. That's not a sweater she's wearing, it's fur. And that's not a blanket draped over me, it's her wings! ”It's you!”

“Mm-hmm.” Her silhouette nods.

“It's you!”

“It's me,” she says with a little smile. “The others will come when you're ready, but I'm here now.” She soothes me, holds me tighter, and shatters something inside me; I can't help it, my tears pour out. More tears than I ever knew I had. I cry, and cry, but for the first time, I know everything is going to be ok.

“I love you so much. I have for so long.”

“I know,” she says with a gentle kiss “and I've loved you just as long; you couldn't see me, but I've been with you all this time.”

“But how? How can you be real?”

“The multiverse is a big place, my love. You'll see.”

“No! I don't want to leave. I can't leave, please...”

“Shhhhh. You'll never have to, and I will never leave you. Never. But when you're ready, and only when you're ready, there's a whole eternity for us to fill together.”

“Together? With you? Forever?”

“Yes my love, welcome to Equestria, you're home now.”