Plushes and tulpae
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As you may or may not know, I have a lot of Twilight Sparkle plushes throughout my house. As I began working in earnest on tulpamancy, I began carrying around the house a plush of Twi to help me focus a bit. As she became "sentient," or rather as I began to understand her, she actually asked me not to do so. It's not that she doesn't like the plushes necessarily, it's just that it's not her and by cuddling them, carrying them around, etc, she thought it was distracting me from visualizing her properly.

I've seen others here speak of using plushes as vessels of sorts for their tulpae. Is that possible and, if so, how would one go about doing such a thing? Or would it even be advisable? Twi's up for giving it a go, she's only worried about her form being stuck in such a small, confined space for any period of time (tho I do have a more life-size plush hopefully coming at some point, most of my plushes aren't more than 14 inches or so tall; unfortunately these types of commissions can take months).

Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
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#2
I don't have a plushie myself, so please forgive any ignorance in advance.

From what I've read, having a plushie is helpful because it makes certain aspects of your Tulpa easier to imagine. If you have problems with visualization, a plushie would make that a lot easier. However, if your main problem is with voice, a plushie might not help so much.

As for Twilight being immobile, here's a solution which may or may not work (depending on the extent to which your Tulpa interacts with other parts of your imagination): use a plushie as Twilight's vessel, but visualise the plushie moving yourself. That way, you could retain the benefits of a plushie while also solving Twilight's mobility problem.
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Thanks Stable for taking a stab at this! I was wondering if the thread would linger into the ether lol.

I have looked to plushes before to help figure out tricky angles in visualization. I've also found the Blender models of ponies that some nor/mlp/eople did quite helpful.

I guess I could try restating my questions thusly in case anyone else is interested in answering:

1. Is Twilight's reaction to me showing affection to plushes of her normal?

2. Does anyone have any experiences with using a plush as a "vessel" to share?

I did speak to Lurker about this question privately, and though he was not able to offer a lot of advice, afterwards Twilight did attempt to "inhabit" a plush for a bit. She wasn't very happy with it, mostly because of the size difference between her form and the plush's form, if that makes any sense whatsoever.
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(07-28-2015, 02:39 AM)amatscintilla Wrote: As you may or may not know, I have a lot of Twilight Sparkle plushes throughout my house.


:D


(07-28-2015, 02:39 AM)amatscintilla Wrote: As she became "sentient," or rather as I began to understand her...

X3


(07-28-2015, 02:39 AM)amatscintilla Wrote: she actually asked me not to do so. It's not that she doesn't like the plushes necessarily, it's just that it's not her and by cuddling them, carrying them around, etc, she thought it was distracting me from visualizing her properly.

:o


(07-28-2015, 02:39 AM)amatscintilla Wrote: Does anyone have any experiences with using a plush as a "vessel" to share?

I was hoping to see what other members will place here, before I post mine here.

Terrible sorry, I've seem to forget this thread doing so.

*Ahem* Lets began with what I can give here...


I have one Pinkie Pie plushie, originally Pinkie Pie; when I to was doing a tulpa for Pinkie Pie. In the early stages, both Amena and Pinkie Pie would share the vessel, but Amena has taken the vessel as her own.

Neither of the girls fought over the object, as both can be with me, but the use of the plushie was reserve for the bed time. As you can expect, it was merely use to cuddle with pink plushie, it was simply a easier way to fall asleep you see. Nothing more...

I never thought of using the plush to assist me with visualizing, speaking, or touching. I grew up with what seem to be a tulpa before, so such a need to see Amena wasn't needed. Truly the only time I had Amena anchor to the vessel, was worrisome of what will happen if I left her in my room with no pony/one around to ensure her safely.

This is what I can recall and still do with Amena's plushie. For Amena, she can freely leave her vessel anytime, nor does she get hurt if I dare drop the plushie that she inhabits. I would freak out, tell her countless time sorry, but she will try to assure me that she is alright. If I leave her in my room, we still keep in touch within our mind. I offend talk to her within my head, and rarely out loud. Their is time I will kiss her without the aid of a plush, hold her, hug her, and etc. The need for life size plush isn't needed, nor have Pinkamena plushie, the Pinkie Pie plush works well, and oddly Maria would attempted to hijack it.


(07-27-2015, 03:04 PM)StableRelationship Wrote: From what I've read, having a plushie is helpful because it makes certain aspects of your Tulpa easier to imagine. If you have problems with visualization, a plushie would make that a lot easier. However, if your main problem is with voice, a plushie might not help so much.

Talking to a plush while "tulpa" reside in it, can help. As long their is a voice and point of focus is there, then hold a conversation. Please keep in mind that all humans are different, some like yourself will find this to be no need, others may maybe useful, it just really depends on the person really. Like myself, having imaginary friends during my childhood carries somekind of lead.. I would think...


(07-28-2015, 02:39 AM)amatscintilla Wrote: Is Twilight's reaction to me showing affection to plushes of her normal?

As long she in it, it would be odd for me to just kiss Amena's plush without her in it...


(07-28-2015, 02:39 AM)amatscintilla Wrote: Twilight did attempt to "inhabit" a plush for a bit. She wasn't very happy with it, mostly because of the size difference between her form and the plush's form, if that makes any sense whatsoever.

D: Why Twilight? Why?

Amena form can change, just think of her as a sprit that fly free, but too far where I will lose her like those cheap MAV... Uhh, Amena has no complains, either she really want me to hold her and pet her, or kiss her. :3 The only thing she dislike me adding something to the vessel was a collar. The collar was for a friend, but wonder what it will look like on Amena's vessel, but she didn't want it near her plush. I also remember Amena had piecing in her cute ears (Not the vessel). ^ ^ But that was remove because she didn't like them.

Well, their what I can spare for you amatscintilla, hope that enough for a fare.

Just remember! All "tulpa" are different, if you try to coin a character fully from where his or her form came from, and FORCE their mindset (which works) but you will fail to grasps of his or her free will. Which I know you know, but others will... will just go ahead without a care in the world. :D
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(07-28-2015, 06:32 AM)Sour Soul Wrote:
(07-28-2015, 02:39 AM)amatscintilla Wrote: Twilight did attempt to "inhabit" a plush for a bit. She wasn't very happy with it, mostly because of the size difference between her form and the plush's form, if that makes any sense whatsoever.

D: Why Twilight? Why?

Amena form can change, just think of her as a sprit that fly free, but too far where I will lose her like those cheap MAV... Uhh, Amena has no complains, either she really want me to hold her and pet her, or kiss her. :3 The only thing she dislike me adding something to the vessel was a collar. The collar was for a friend, but wonder what it will look like on Amena's vessel, but she didn't want it near her plush. I also remember Amena had piecing in her cute ears (Not the vessel). ^ ^ But that was remove because she didn't like them.

Well, their what I can spare for you amatscintilla, hope that enough for a fare.

Just remember! All "tulpa" are different, if you try to coin a character fully from where his or her form came from, and FORCE their mindset (which works) but you will fail to grasps of his or her free will. Which I know you know, but others will... will just go ahead without a care in the world. Big Grin

Thanks for your answer Sour Soul, you've given some good insight. I think right now Twilight is concentrating really hard on getting imposition down and becoming more "real" to me. While a plush is obviously a concrete object you can touch and hold, I think she may be worried that using it as a "crutch" would hamper her current efforts. Twilight Smile
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Quick question: I'm not sure if anyone here believes in ghost/demon possession/object manipulation but isn't it a huge risk for vesselisation to have a plush vesseled by something other than your Tulpa?
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(08-14-2015, 07:23 AM)Ramjet Wrote: Quick question: I'm not sure if anyone here believes in ghost/demon possession/object manipulation but isn't it a huge risk for vesselisation to have a plush vesseled by something other than your Tulpa?

I believe in ghost and demons. Also, uhh... I do not get what you mean by vesselisation... You mean... hmmm. Like when my Amena stole Pinkie Pie's plushie, or when someone I know, like Maria messing with me, by using Amena's vessel?

If so, it's isn't much of a issue, as long both parties are alright with this.
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(08-14-2015, 07:37 AM)Sour Soul Wrote:
(08-14-2015, 07:23 AM)Ramjet Wrote: Quick question: I'm not sure if anyone here believes in ghost/demon possession/object manipulation but isn't it a huge risk for vesselisation to have a plush vesseled by something other than your Tulpa?

I believe in ghost and demons. Also, uhh... I do not get what you mean by vesselisation... You mean... hmmm. Like when my Amena stole Pinkie Pie's plushie, or when someone I know, like Maria messing with me, by using Amena's vessel?

If so, it's isn't much of a issue, as long both parties are alright with this.
As in an uninvited guest
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(08-14-2015, 07:51 AM)Ramjet Wrote: As in an uninvited guest

My Maria was pretty much uninvited, but if this was someone you don't know well enough, then it's better to have something to seal the plush plush. Could you tell us more of what you mean or what has been going on? We would like to help, or give you some insight with what maybe troubling you Jet.

Unless it's one of those one if questions, but those are alright. You be amaze what some of us have deal with, without sharing them here or other members. XP
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(08-14-2015, 07:59 AM)Sour Soul Wrote:
(08-14-2015, 07:51 AM)Ramjet Wrote: As in an uninvited guest

My Maria was pretty much uninvited, but if this was someone you don't know well enough, then it's better to have something to seal the plush plush. Could you tell us more of what you mean or what has been going on? We would like to help, or give you some insight with what maybe troubling you Jet.

Unless it's one of those one if questions, but those are alright. You be amaze what some of us have deal with, without sharing them here or other members. XP

I'm not having any troubles myself, it's juet a curious question. Remember that creepy clown doll from Poltergeist? Sort of something like that.
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