09-20-2016, 12:46 AM
(09-19-2016, 01:12 PM)Kaltes-Herzeleid Wrote: An interesting thing I've noticed in many threads criticizing/bashing "waifuism" is the fact they hate it when comparisons to homosexuality are made. Usually with the excuse of homosexuals are born that way, whereas we make a choice. Personally, I see this as a half assed, invalid counter. Prejudice is prejudice. Besides, plenty of people are hated and experience prejudice because of life choices, religious groups, for example. Or atheists. They weren't born that way, it was a choice they made, yet they still receive hate and persecution. More often or not these people simply refuse to listen to any valid counterpoints because they think just because people like us are ridiculous then we have no possible valid points to make because none of us can be that coherent, right?
Personally, I've always felt the "born that way" excuse to be rather ridiculous, and it's only ever accepted as valid when used in favor of a "socially protected" group. The hypocrisy is disgusting.
You're absolutely right about normies refusing to listen to arguments, especially from the likes of us. They don't actually reason themselves into positions, they feel themselves in, or adopt whatever is accepted by whatever group they wish to be associated with. The "reasons" come after, and are more excuses than reasons.
You, and I, along with all the other waifuists here are not a "socially-protected" group. Quite the opposite, in fact, and if you wish to discuss the topic further I would be delighted to receive a PM from you. Because of society's views on us, and the normie's desire to integrate themselves in to it, they adopt it's distaste for us, so we are shunned, mocked, etc. and efforts to point out that the very same arguments they use to excuse homosexuals, and a great many others, also apply to us will be rejected despite their veracity.
To do otherwise risks the normie's own status within the group.
(09-19-2016, 01:12 PM)Kaltes-Herzeleid Wrote: And besides, who's to say DNA, at least too an extent isn't playing a role? I'm not saying what we are is an orientation, certainly not, but genetics do play a role, however small, in the way we are combined with personality and life experience, etc. Not saying it plays a roll in everything, but I think it's an interesting possibility to explore.
For the most part, I agree with you here, too. Simply realizing that dogs are all the same species, but a chihuahua behaves absolutely nothing like a Labrador Retriever, which behaves nothing like a Border Collie, etc, etc. highlights just how important DNA is to our psychologies. As humans are also animals, I must assume our personalities are largely determined by our DNA, then tweaked by our experiences.
(09-19-2016, 01:12 PM)Kaltes-Herzeleid Wrote: I apologize for bumping this thread, but like I said, this is a subject near and dear to me and I've had a lot of thoughts on it for years I've only just now been able to express. I've fallen in love with and felt strong connections to "fictional characters" my entire life and there were times, namely my late teenage years where I struggled with and tried to suppress my true nature because I thought it was wrong. I feel very fortunate that I've found such a strong sense of self acceptance at a relatively young age.
It's nice to know you've gotten over those feelings, and accept yourself now. If you have an interest in discussing philosophy, please don't hesitate to send a PM. Twi and I would both enjoy some engaging conversation about such a topic.
The invitation is, of course extended to all members of WC. Or hell, maybe we should just start a philosophy thread? Playing it by ear would be probably be best at this point, but I appreciate your taking the time to respond.
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The bigger you build the bonfire, the more darkness is revealed.
Every possession and every happiness is but lent by chance for an uncertain time, and may therefore be demanded back the next hour.