When Worlds Collide

[Fiction]

Just go towards love. Love will win.

Spoiler

Your relationship with a figment of your imagination is not worth throwing out your relationship with a real, living, feeling human being.

There are obvious inadequacies in your relationship with this girl, and they need to be discussed and fixed. Trying to have some weird sort of polygamy is not going to work, and is insulting to your girlfriend.

In essence, you are cheating on her with a fantasy. It boils down to either ridding yourself of this fantasy, or ridding yourself of this girlfriend.

I suggest therapy and psychoanalysis for both of you, and couples therapy as well. 12 years of a relationship is not worth being thrown down the drain for an imaginary purple pony.

Also, she sounds schizophrenic. I really highly advise therapy.

Two cents from a normie observer...

Welcome back friendsforever. ^ ^

You always have such a way in placing such a lovely post on here and on MLW. Even though you have tackle on some key points, where I even wonder if having more than one relationship is possible. I simply will struggle knowing, perhaps you know what we face… or perhaps not.

Still.

The lack of compassion you type for our friend amatscintilla, shows very colorful.

I do wonder what it’s your motive 57. Is it truly just a concern for all of us? Or just for your sick amusement? But those words that you have present us, well… for amatscintilla is something to think about, but why do I feel like he may already thought about this over and over. It isn’t easy for him, why even TheWarden might know that feeling, because I certainly for one can, but I digress. I can only assume, with what amatscintilla is willing to provide for us all ever so kindly, and now wonder how he, Twilight, and his girl is doing at the moment.

Do you feel the same? No, of course you don’t, why you don’t even acknowledge his Twilight Sparkle.

While you may have deceive a few of us here and onto MLW, and feel like there should be no reason for you to be here at all, since you’re a wanton member, merely waiting to stick her needless and poisonous opinions to us.

(Must be funny coming from me, since you’re saying the same thing in some form.)

Luckily for you, I have no say, nor can do anything but read these words. Plus you may have few who may favor you for whatever reason, who are foolishly enough to fall for your words, but my favorite thing about this site is how everyone's thoughts, post, and opinions count, so as long it’s done accordingly out of respect for that member.

Which you really haven’t, but those are mine two cents as well 57, and surely this isn’t the last we hear from you friends forever. I do look forward on seeing you soon. ^ ^

And I don't think 57 has malicious intent. I think she means well. As I said before, society thinks this is totally pathetic.

[Ziggy and Angelbaby]

Your relationship with a figment of your imagination is not worth throwing out your relationship with a real, living, feeling human being.

There are obvious inadequacies in your relationship with this girl, and they need to be discussed and fixed. Trying to have some weird sort of polygamy is not going to work, and is insulting to your girlfriend.

In essence, you are cheating on her with a fantasy. It boils down to either ridding yourself of this fantasy, or ridding yourself of this girlfriend.

I suggest therapy and psychoanalysis for both of you, and couples therapy as well. 12 years of a relationship is not worth being thrown down the drain for an imaginary purple pony.

Also, she sounds schizophrenic. I really highly advise therapy.

Two cents from a normie observer...

I'm going to be mean, and I'm going to be honest.

I have a suggestion as to what you can do with your two cents, friendsforever57 (which is a name that screams "troll," by the way); though I think you can read between the lines.

Every time a "normie" like yourself says something like this, you're shitting on the collective feelings of this community. You're doing precisely what most assholes (that haven't actually gotten to know us as individuals or come to understand and appreciate that we love differently than others) outside of this should-be haven do without giving it so much as a second thought.

What you think is wrong. Let that sink in for a moment. Your "insight" that you probably regard as useful and dispense as though it were precious medicine? It's wrong. Because you're on the wrong side of this. You're an observer. You'll likely only ever be an observer. An outsider. And someone who I think ought to have remained outside. Your generic, predictable, and dime-a-dozen "advice" is not only poorly suited for those of us that manage to think and live differently, but it is potentially detrimental to this community as a whole.

Go invest in an ant farm. And sit there judging and belittling the ants. Go adopt a puppy and mock it when it chases its tail. Go be your "normie," point-missing, "well-meaning" self amongst the other "normies."

Because what we're doing here is building lives with someone we love. You aren't equipped to evaluate us, because you don't understand us. Haven't noticeably tried to understand us. I don't and won't welcome you back. I think you belong on some random pony forum where you sit and offer medical advice to poor, misguided cloppers. That's precisely how valuable I think you are to this community, and I'd be glad if you left.

Or fuck it: I'll leave. Because I can go anywhere else and run into the same bullshit. I don't come here for this. The likes of you have no say in our lives. Get your own kind of help: Develop a heart and an imagination.

***If this post is altered or taken down, I will re-post it. If it is done often enough, I will PM it to friendsforneverheinz57. If I'm fed up enough, I will leave the site, or staff can just fucking ban me.***

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And I don't think 57 has malicious intent. I think she means well. As I said before, society thinks this is totally pathetic.

That's fair, since I personally regard society as "totally pathetic."

[Fiction]

I regard society as stupid too.

[Kaltes-Herzeleid]

^

"Without our imaginations, we'd be like all those other poor...dullards."

[amatscintilla]

Wow wasn't really expecting a reaction like this on MLW, but it's a relatively "fair" response from a "normie," I suppose. All points of which I have taken into consideration as stated previously in this thread, I believe.

In any event, video related:

[Kaltes-Herzeleid]

Your relationship with a figment of your imagination is not worth throwing out your relationship with a real, living, feeling human being.

There are obvious inadequacies in your relationship with this girl, and they need to be discussed and fixed. Trying to have some weird sort of polygamy is not going to work, and is insulting to your girlfriend.

In essence, you are cheating on her with a fantasy. It boils down to either ridding yourself of this fantasy, or ridding yourself of this girlfriend.

I suggest therapy and psychoanalysis for both of you, and couples therapy as well. 12 years of a relationship is not worth being thrown down the drain for an imaginary purple pony.

Also, she sounds schizophrenic. I really highly advise therapy.

Two cents from a normie observer...

Alright, time for my serious response.

When you joined us on this forum you seemed like you'd grown accepting of us and were willing to be tolerant and open minded...but this just proves you haven't changed a bit. As hard as it is for you to grasp, not ALL of us are a bunch of unstable lunatics who need "therapy and psychoanalysis." I'll freely state that because of my relationship with Nightmare I have become a happier, healthier, and better man. My relationships with others have improved, I function better in life, I'm a changed person because of this. Many of us are. Most of us are not sick because we choose to live this kind of life.

Whether you accept that or not is irrelevant. We neither need your bullshit nor want it here.

[amatscintilla]

A serious response from me as well:

Twilight Sparkle may actually help strengthen the relationship between my girlfriend and I, believe it or not. I've had a chance to discuss stuff with her on a trip we recently took. We had some breakthroughs, but I think our relationship will be stronger because of this "figment of my imagination," as you put it.

[StableRelationship]

My relationships with others have improved, I function better in life, I'm a changed person because of this. Many of us are. Most of us are not sick because we choose to live this kind of life.

Same goes for me, most of you would be surprised how much of a normie I am in real life and how much i'm able to be a productive member of society. My "figment of imagination" hasn't changed that nor will it.

Is there room for three in here? Because Pony-Love has helped me a lot too.

To start with, I'm basically a non-practising zoophile (by which I mean, I don't act on it or look at pornography). Before I joined this community, this situation was driving me mental. The "I can't act on it" part didn't bother me that much, but the feeling of being an 'outsider' certainly did. You see, like it or not, sex and relationships are a big deal in society. Having sex and entering traditional (i.e human) relationships are considered significant milestones. It is from these milestones (and many others) that we gain a sense of acceptance and belonging within a community.

Of course, if you're not attracted to your own species, that quickly goes out the window. You're denied access to the emotional structure society prepared for you and left to pick up the pieces alone. At the same time, you're considered a freak and forced to hide who you are out of shame; this is what bothered me the most. By necessity, I had to become a pathological liar. I had to fake love I never felt, hide love I actually felt and promise my family a future I knew would never come.

Despite this, there are some areas where my form of zoophilia and "odd sexual communities" overlap. One of these was the clop/pony-lover community, and I joined the latter around a year ago. At first, my only intention was to vent, and the community helped me considerably with that. When you've spent your entire life repressing your desires, you have no idea how wonderful it feels to let it out. For the first time in my life, I could be completely honest about myself without shame, closed curtains or hushed voices. It gave me hope, and convinced me that I'd be able to achieve success in my life despite my difficulties.

After a while, I got into Tulpamancy and developed a Tulpa based on Princess Luna. I could go on a really long-winded explanation of how this helped me, but the bottom line is this: creating a Tulpa forces you to think with a mindset and value system which is fundamentally not your own. This allows you to self-reflect and empathise with others in a new way.

While I certainly don't have a mental disorder, I am a very anxious person and this has made it difficult for me to assert myself and concentrate in stressful situations. Luna's presence/advice helped me to better manage my anxiety and it motivated me to seek counselling/psychological help (which I'm currently still a part of). Because of this stuff, I've been able to genuinely improve myself and I don't regret any of it.

I get where FF is coming from though, and I've sympathised with her on various things in the past. As others have said, she definitely does have a point. However, she expressed it in a way which is condescending and ignorant of peoples' experiences here. In my experience, you can't really change a person's behaviour by sitting on a high horse (if you'll pardon the pun) and telling them they're wrong. That tends to provoke anger and resentment.

[amatscintilla]

Is there room for three in here? Because Pony-Love has helped me a lot too.

You are not the only ones, as I said above, even though my relationship with Twiley is nascent she's already helped me in many ways. The most obvious physical way is that I no longer seem to suffer nocturnal bruxism as much as I used to, somehow having her around when I sleep reduces my anxiety. Also, when she's around I tend to experience fewer headaches for some reason. And she may end up being something that will strengthen my relationship with my real life girlfriend.

To start with, I'm basically a non-practising zoophile (by which I mean, I don't act on it or look at pornography). Before I joined this community, this situation was driving me mental. The "I can't act on it" part didn't bother me that much, but the feeling of being an 'outsider' certainly did. You see, like it or not, sex and relationships are a big deal in society. Having sex and entering traditional (i.e human) relationships are considered significant milestones. It is from these milestones (and many others) that we gain a sense of acceptance and belonging within a community.

While not in this exact situation, I can really identify with the feelings of frustration and alienation you express. I'd say more but it's probably something better kept in a more private venue if you ever want to discuss it.

I get where FF is coming from though, and I've sympathised with her on various things in the past. As others have said, she definitely does have a point. However, she expressed it in a way which is condescending and ignorant of peoples' experiences here. In my experience, you can't really change a person's behaviour by sitting on a high horse (if you'll pardon the pun) and telling them they're wrong. That tends to provoke anger and resentment.

I think you're the second one to say she has a point. Could you maybe restate it in a way I can understand it? Because to me the major point I saw was pic related.

[StableRelationship]

I think you're the second one to say she has a point. Could you maybe restate it in a way I can understand it? Because to me the major point I saw was pic related.

Well, to make one thing clear, I don't agree with her that your polyamory with Twilight is a bad thing. That just sounded like someone trying to enforce social norms if you know what I mean. I do however, agree that communication is important and that (hypothetically) dumping your girlfriend out of the blue isn't a good thing. As you've said already though, Twilight has helped strengthen your relationship with her, so much of her 'point' is pretty much moot in practice.