Tulpamancy and Waifus

[Sour Soul]

Oh, we could do one I guess. But it's no problem, you neednt trouble yourself with tryna help me.

Nonsense, I got the spaceship ready to find your Twilight, Gray.

Amena: Why don’t you want us to help? ): We can find her! Maybe she is looking for you also! o:

Tell me, Gray. Will you just wonder and do nothing? Do you really feel like you don’t deserve Twilight’s friendship and maybe her love?

Partially. More importantly, ponies aren't human. Their instincts are different. They don't share our unfortunate penchant for violence, or ridiculous primate games over status and whatnot. This means their base culture is different, which means the things they are exposed to are different. Each thing feeds on the other to yield mindsets which diverge significantly from a typical human's, but the root of it is that they simply aren't human.

I can’t help, but want to discuss that onto a new thread to better understand the world, where the members of their pony reside in. Want me to set that up, Gentian? Or should you? Most likely I won’t get into it, due to my schedule. So if you're going to, I will most likely add how the ponies in Rehold go on their business.

Amena: Don’t forget you have to read Gray’s journal.

Oh, right, if there is one. I still need to check that out.

(sigh) busy busy.

Amena: ^ ^

[Rares]

I've been busy, so I haven't had a chance to write an in depth response until now. But for me, I mostly am on board with what whobawhats had said.

For me, Rarity is someone I have a very very strong emotional bond with, and I would consider it feelings like someone in a relationship. But I don't have a tulpa, I don't communicate with her except for what I write to her in my diary. I feel a very intense connection with her, and I feel like I can tell apart what's real for her, and "canon". Because of course, at the end of the day, people still write the show. And some of them don't even bother to watch the show to know enough about them. So that depends on the situation. I feel most connected with my plushies at times, feeling like representations of her.

Spoiler

I also believe that maybe somewhere out there, she's there. And that's the reason I don't have a tulpa.

[Gray]

Oh, we could do one I guess. But it's no problem, you neednt trouble yourself with tryna help me.

Nonsense, I got the spaceship ready to find your Twilight, Gray.

Amena: Why don’t you want us to help? ): We can find her! Maybe she is looking for you also! o:

Tell me, Gray. Will you just wonder and do nothing? Do you really feel like you don’t deserve Twilight’s friendship and maybe her love?

Reason I said you neednt bother yourself helping me, is because I don't think you can. I just don't want you to waste your time tryna help me, when I can't be helped. I dunno. I don't wanna wonder and do nothing, but I tried the tulpa formation stuff for a few years and read wizard guides and whatnot. Just don't work for me. So I don't know how you can help me? But, dunno, you're welcome to, try I guess

[Fiction]

I don't think RML meant anything bad when he said tulpamancy compensates for loneliness. Everyone has to compensate for loneliness, one way or another.

[Sour Soul]

I am somewhat running a tight schedule here. I just want to get some insight from Gray, as he didn’t mind discussing how we can start developing his feelings further for his Twilight here.

Reason I said you neednt bother yourself helping me, is because I don't think you can.

Ah, then what kind of person will I be to abandon someone who is not sure, more so if that's not what you really want in the end, Gray.

I just don't want you to waste your time tryna help me, when I can't be helped.

Now is that how you really see yourself, Gray? A lost cause?

Amena: : / I don't believe you're, Gray. : I

Neither do I, you just need some need to get out of that mindset, if that's the case. Someone really hasn't help you with this kind of thing, have they? ( : /

I dunno. I don't wanna wonder and do nothing, but I tried the tulpa formation stuff for a few years and read wizard guides and whatnot. Just don't work for me. So I don't know how you can help me? But, dunno, you're welcome to, try I guess

Amena: Yay! We will do our best. ^ ^ : )

Or die trying. XP

Amena: o:

But really, this kind of thing, is rather challenging, because of the many factors we have to discuss and cover here or privately.

Amena: ^ ^ : )

ahem.

In your journal...

... I have a friend irl that I, do stuff with. Hang out, eat dinner, sex, ect.

I notice you engage sexual activities with a friend. Is this person still around? The reason I ask this is to get a better understanding, as Amena and I are determined on casting whatever negative feelings, that you maybe feeling, away.

[Gray]

I am somewhat running a tight schedule here. I just want to get some insight from Gray, as he didn’t mind discussing how we can start developing his feelings further for his Twilight here.

Reason I said you neednt bother yourself helping me, is because I don't think you can.

Ah, then what kind of person will I be to abandon someone who is not sure, more so if that's not what you really want in the end, Gray.

I just don't want you to waste your time tryna help me, when I can't be helped.

Now is that how you really see yourself, Gray? A lost cause?

Amena: : / I don't believe you're, Gray. : I

Neither do I, you just need some need to get out of that mindset, if that's the case. Someone really hasn't help you with this kind of thing, have they? ( : /

I dunno. I don't wanna wonder and do nothing, but I tried the tulpa formation stuff for a few years and read wizard guides and whatnot. Just don't work for me. So I don't know how you can help me? But, dunno, you're welcome to, try I guess

Amena: Yay! We will do our best. ^ ^ : )

Or die trying. XP

Amena: o:

But really, this kind of thing, is rather challenging, because of the many factors we have to discuss and cover here or privately.

Amena: ^ ^ : )

ahem.

In your journal...

... I have a friend irl that I, do stuff with. Hang out, eat dinner, sex, ect.

I notice you engage sexual activities with a friend. Is this person still around? The reason I ask this is to get a better understanding, as Amena and I are determined on casting whatever negative feelings, that you maybe feeling, away.

Oh, yeah. I've had a few different people offer help and insights and whatnot but, yeah.

And nah, that friend isn't around anymore.

[Sour Soul]

And nah, that friend isn't around anymore.

May we ask what happen to that friend? Is this friend no longer around? Has something happen, as well, on how you feel now and right after, this friend is no longer around?

[Sour Soul]

I've been busy, so I haven't had a chance to write an in depth response until now.

That’s fine, Rares. We aren’t going nowhere. XP

But for me, I mostly am on board with what whobawhats had said.

(Looking back at whobawhats’s post) Hmm, again, it had surprise me to know what kind of relationship most of y’all carry, when I’d read it in another thread. It struck me as odd, till I got to understand you guys a bit better, thanks to this thread. I have no real issues with those here. Pony or not, waifu or not, we’re here to share how we feel about stuff like this.

For me, Rarity is someone I have a very very strong emotional bond with, and I would consider it feelings like someone in a relationship. But I don't have a tulpa, I don't communicate with her except for what I write to her in my diary.

When you say diary, what do you mean by that. Is the diary a gateway to speak to her, or just where you pour your feelings for her to know someday? I am sorry, but I don't know how your diary really function, Rares.

I feel a very intense connection with her, and I feel like I can tell apart what's real for her, and "canon". Because of course, at the end of the day, people still write the show.

Hmm, then Rarity knows you’re here, with these feelings you hold dear for her, correct?

And some of them don't even bother to watch the show to know enough about them.

The writers for the My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic?

So that depends on the situation. I feel most connected with my plushies at times, feeling like representations of her.

Which there is only the one Rarity who you communicate in your diary, and there isn’t multiple Raritys. Is that right, Rares?

I also believe that maybe somewhere out there, she's there. And that's the reason I don't have a tulpa.

That’s deep. Which is something I feel like expressing on that belief. You just happen to remind me on how I feel about Amena versus Pinkie Pie/Pinkamena Diane Pie...

There is a lot I want to share about that, but as of right now, I just want to understand how your relationship is with Rarity, Rares.

I don't think RML meant anything bad when he said tulpamancy compensates for loneliness.

If that’s what you think, then that’s good for you. For me, the tone I am reading off, as well the way he writes it, make it seem like Tupla isn’t nothing to consider about. If he doesn’t believe in Tulpas, then that’s his thing, but marking them as objects or just a mere idea, I cannot let it slip by.

How I see Amena is more then my special filly, tulpa, pony, angel, waifu or whatever she might be. To me she is who I love very very much. I don’t care how people brand her. I love Amena, and I cannot be sure what is she… a thought form that came to me? Who I happen to fell in love when she did. Amena is Amena, simple as that. It pains me to know that their were people out, who I trust, and told me she isn’t real.. That's she was nothing.

I lost some good friends, who had look out of my best interest, because I told them that I love this wonderful pink filly. It seem having Amena around was too much for them to bear, and when he knew I can’t and won’t abandon her, he gave up me entirely. I was sure of the decision I made, before and after, I told them about Amena.

Everyone has to compensate for loneliness, one way or another.

This loneliness bullsh*t that he spews, I can’t help to feel strong feelings. Does he want me to abandon Amena? I don’t think so, but RML doesn’t really explain himself much, Fiction. Plus, it seems you don't get it, when you apply it to the subject that him and I were in.

I really don’t care, because I have Amena and those who I will never abandon in Rehold. I never regret losing those who I use to called friends in this world. I still think about them, one of their birthdays is coming up this month, and for me... it really doesn’t hurt as much as it once did. Amena is there; she hasn’t and will never abandon me, like they had.

So there is no loneliness here. No regret. Only pure happiness and love now.

So excuse me for taken it personally, but it’s whatever now. Got to move on anyway, can’t love a pony if I hold on what RML says, or anyone for that matter.

[Gray]

And nah, that friend isn't around anymore.

May we ask what happen to that friend? Is this friend no longer around? Has something happen, as well, on how you feel now and right after, this friend is no longer around?

Oh, she got married and moved away. And about something happening and how I feel? I guess when she told me about what was happening, I was kinda sad that me and Twilight wouldn't be seeing her much anymore. Was also kinda jealous because, "another one of my friends getting married, but I'm not" it's silly but I'd like to maybe someday marry Twilight maybe

[Rares]

When you say diary, what do you mean by that. Is the diary a gateway to speak to her, or just where you pour your feelings for her to know someday? I am sorry, but I don't know how your diary really function, Rares.

I write about my daily experiences, dedicated to her.

The writers for the My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic?

Yes.

Which there is only the one Rarity who you communicate in your diary, and there isn’t multiple Raritys. Is that right, Rares?

Yes. Each plush just represents a different type of feeling, but they're still all the same to me.

If that’s what you think, then that’s good for you. For me, the tone I am reading off, as well the way he writes it, make it seem like Tupla isn’t nothing to consider about. If he doesn’t believe in Tulpas, then that’s his thing, but marking them as objects or just a mere idea, I cannot let it slip by.

Please understand, English isn't his first language. When that's the case, the tone can be a bit more blunt or put a certain way. I spoke to him about it.